Will Mirvish Productions do the right thing and offer refunds now that the well-known star of their upcoming “Fiddler on the Roof” show isn’t performing? How does your company treat loyal customers? Here are my thoughts.
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Ever since I heard that Mirvish Productions was bringing Chaim Topol to Toronto in December for a stage production reprising his much-loved role as Tevye the Russian milkman in the movie Fiddler on the Roof, I HAD to have tickets!
I must have been one of the first people to scoop up those tickets – 6 of them for my extended family. O.K., $625 for great seats at this show was maybe a tad extravagant, but the play was billed as Chaim Topol’s “farewell tour” – and I rationalized that it would make a great Christmas gift for the family. After all, some people spend that kind of money on rock concerts and sporting events. Well, I chose Topol!
So imagine my extreme dismay, when Toronto’s Mirvish Productions announced this past Wednesday that Topol would not be appearing in Toronto since he’d injured his shoulder. I certainly did feel bad for this wonderful actor. Perhaps the play’s energetic dance numbers – executed effortlessly by a younger Topol in 1967 during the play’s debut in London, were too much for the 74-year-old Israeli actor. But Topol had to have had a lot of moxie to have been signed by Mirvish for this run which was to go from December 8 to .
In any case, since Topol wasn’t going to be in Toronto for the play, I didn’t want to be either. I immediately called Mirvish for a refund. That’s when TicketKing informed me that no refunds were available. I couldn’t believe it!
I explained to the TicketKing agent that I’d only bought tickets to this show because it was billed as a “once in a lifetime opportunity” to see ”Topol in Fiddler on the Roof.” Topol’s name was actually on my tickets. Since Topol wasn’t appearing, they should refund my money. Still, the agent insisted, no refund. I then started to get very frustrated realizing, ”That’s $600 down the drain!”.
Finally, the agent told me to contact a woman in the Mirvish customer service department who would consider refunds on a “case by case basis”.
I was given an email address. That’s it. They refused or were unable to give me a phone number or the name of the supervisor in charge. Talk about stonewalling a customer! So I have no idea if my email got read. There wasn’t an auto-responder thanking me for my email and assuring me that the person in question will be in touch within 24 hrs. That would have helped.
I can only assume that rather than have some customer service protocols in place to advert a public relations fiasco, Mirvish is prepared to leave a loyal customer feeling frustrated and ripped off. The idea of evaluating refund requests in this situation on a “case by case” basis smacks of unfairness at best and favoritism at worst!
An article in today’s Buffalo News covered the story because Topol was to perform there as well. In my opinion, Buffalo’s Shea Performing Arts Center, handled the public relations fallout from disappointed ticket-holders well and with integrity:
“Shea’s refund policy mirrors the tradition in the theater world: When a star’s name appears in the title of the show or is listed above the title, ticket-holders are entitled to refunds.”
By contrast, this morning Mirvish sent an “E-Stage” email newsletter to their loyal subscribers which I received. The newsletter headline was, “Farewell Topol, Welcome Harvey”. A portion of the newsletter makes this breezy statement when referring to Topol’s injury:
“That’s sad news for those looking forward to his performance, but as the man says, every cloud has a silver lining; Fiddler’s producers confirmed Wednesday night that he will be replaced in the tour, starting in Toronto, by the Tony-award winning actor (and playwright) Harvey Fierstein.”
No mention of refunds in that newsletter. It looked like a rather weak attempt to put a PR spin on the issue and cajole disappointed subscribers into not demanding refunds. But replacing Topol in Toronto with Harvey Fierstein, another fine actor, really doesn’t remedy the situation since Topol was the big draw for the show in the first place. The less charitable of theatre-goers might call this a “bait and switch” — even though, in fairness, Mirvish could not have known Topol would be indisposed.
What matters now is how Mirvish responds. They surely have insurance to cover any losses due to Topol’s absence. So the real question is how much do they value customer loyalty and are they willing to go beyond paying “lip service” to this concept by doing the right thing?
It certainly doesn’t make Mirvish look good that as of November 13th portions of their website still marketed the Fiddler on the Roof production as starring Topol. It certainly doesn’t take two days to make the corrections their site – many other ticket purchasers might have gotten taken in thinking they would be seeing the actor they remember with so much fondness ,even after Mirvish knew Topol would not be appearing. Sure, I’m willing to give Mirvish the benefit of the doubt. Perhaps they informed patrons of the switch. But the cynic in me wonders if this was a ploy to inflate “non-refundable” ticket sales for a show that would never be as successful without Topol.
Customer Loyalty Is A Precious Commodity
The world of theatre is not so far removed from the manufacturing realm. When your customers complain the product you said you’d provide isn’t what you promised upon delivery, what do you do?
Do you, like Mirvish, say “no refunds, too bad.”
Do you stone-wall, refuse to let them directly contact “those in charge” and say each complaint will be treated on a “case by case basis” — even if the stated policy is “the customer is always right”?
In the age of social media, the money Mirvish or any other supplier could keep by insisting that customers pay up — even if the products delivered aren’t what was promised — just isn’t worth the long-term cost. People are now empowered to disseminate very damaging press about these companies to their social networks – and this can go viral.
The revenue Mirvish, or indeed, any other company saves in the short term by sticking to their no refund policy is a veritable “drop in the bucket” compared to the long-term damage to their reputation and the lost future revenue when angry customers walk away.
In today’s competitive business environment, your loyal customers – and their repeat business is a precious commodity. They don’t have to do business with any supplier that doesn’t treat them fairly.
I, too, have many other choices when it comes to where I spend my hard-earned entertainment dollars. The ball’s in Mirvish’s court. I’m still waiting for a response to my email. I sincerely hope they do the right thing.
What do you think? How do you handle customer complaints? Do you have any advice for Mirvish or fellow manufacturers? Your comments and questions are welcome.
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Hi Sarah, I too, am in the same boat as you. I purchased 2 tickets as Christmas gifts for my mom and her friend to go see Topol in his farewell performance, My mom was very excited to hear he was coming to perform and pretty much FORCED me to get her a ticket to the show. __Now that Topol is no longer a part of this performance, I am left with two tickets for which Ticketking would offer no refunds to. __I was also given the Customer Service e-mail and after two days now, am still awaiting a reply. The funny thing is, I have dealth with her before while trying to obtain tickets before they went on sale. She was my go-to "friend" telling me dates and times, prices and packages etc. We e-mailed back and forth on more than one occassion. Now, she is silent. Nowhere to be found.____I was thinking of going by the Canon theatre with my tickets and demanding a refund right then and there, but from what I read of your experience, I think I'd only be wasting my time. It's sad that this is happened. I read about Buffalo honoring refunds to their customers. I think it's only fair if the same was done here.____Thanks for your article. It was a good read.
Hi Michael,
Thanks so much for your comments. Dealing with Mirvish is incredibly frustrating, isn't it? I actually did receive a reply from Laura Gladwell the Mirvish customer service rep this morning after sending my email around 4 pm yesterday. Laura apologized profusely for the "shocking disappointment" surrrounding the news of Topol's departure and offered a 2 for 1 deal on the Fiddler tickets if I want to use 3 or my tickets for either the Sound of Music or My Mothers Jewish Lesbian Wiccan Wedding. I told her I'd already seen the Sound of Music this year and I'm not interested in the other play in the slightest. I'm waiting to hear back on Mirvish's next proposal … stay tuned.
Well you made more progress than I have! I am still awaiting a reply from Laura. I have no idea why she has chosen to ignore me for so long. I was not even rude in the slightest in my e-mails, as I know being rude usually gets you nowhere.
My mom and I have already seen Sound of Music as well, and I don't think she'd be interested in the other play either. But that's still besides the point. I just want my money back so I can finish my Christmas shopping.
Please keep me informed!
Hi Michael,
If you have a social media network on Twitter, LinkedIn etc, you might consider sharing this info there. I'll certainly keep you informed when/if I hear back from Laura at Mirvish. We are absolutely in the right since we purchased tickets expecting to see Topol and since they cannot deliver, they do owe us our money back. If Harvey Fierstein is as popular as Mirvish claims he is, I'm sure Mirvish will have no trouble filling seats for his performances without holding onto ticket money from patrons that request and deserve refunds. Like you , I can certainly use my $600 for Christmas shopping. I'll definitely keep you informed! All the best.
Hi Sarah, sorry I don't have either of those social network sites.
However, I just want to throw in an quick update to my case here. Laura finally contacted me today, and offered me the same options you mentioned. She also gave me the option of a full refund or a gift certificate in the same dollar amount.
I chose the refund, and within an hour she had applied it to my credit card!
Hope she does the same for you! Thanks for your help in this
Nice to have a happy ending. Laura at Mirvish also sent me an email apologizing for any "confusion" today. She said that it had been their intention all along to give full refunds to any who requested them in writing. (?) At any rate, I also received a full refund on my credit card . Took a while, but it's good to know Mirvish finally did the right thing! Enjoy spending your ticket money on Christmas shopping!
You must make a request in writing so there is a paper trail and to protect from fraudulent use. A ticket will never be cancelled based solely on a phone conversation.
You're absolutely correct, James. That's why I provided the Mirvish agent with my ticket confirmation number in my initial emailed request for a refund. The phone conversation only occurred after she contacted me — as a follow up to my written request — to work out a compensation deal (2 for 1 tickets). I elected not to accept this solution and repeated my request, in writing, for a full refund. I was also fully willing to provide my credit card statement which recorded the transaction as proof if Mirvish had not responded appropriately to both my written and verbal requests.
I saw the same production last night in Toronto and it was painful. I've seen Harvey in movies (loved him in Mrs. Doubtfire) but didn't know his name. If I had made the connection that's who it was that was replacing Topol I would have absolutely exchaged or tried to sell my tickets. If you love the movie adaptation of this story, do not bother to see Harvey as Tevye. It is the worst case of casting ever. You might as well cast Pee Wee Herman as Mufasa. I was never more excited to see a production as when I heard Topol was coming to Toronto in his signature role. I was terribly disappointed when he was injured, but I've seen many Mirvish productions and was confident it would still be a good show. I was so looking forward to hearing someone belt out "If I Were a Rich Man" and feeling those chills. contd
Harvey Fierstein cannot sing a note. He butchered every song in the show. Not only that, his delivery of classic lines was almost an afterthought, and his tempo was off. To see him raise his poor excuse for a voice in anger and frustration to the other characters was like watching a toddler with laryngitis have a tantrum. Even meek and mild Motel has no reason to fear Harvey's flamboyant Tevye. In the attempt to make the role his own, he made a mockery of it. The actor playing Lazar has played Tevye before and would have been a much preferred choice over Harvey. The decision to cast a big name instead of a better match for Topol was a huge mistake. The rest of the cast was fine, but ion still not the best I've seen. Granted, I'm sure performing next to H.F., knowing the audience was grating on every word he uttered, couldn't have been easy. Still, the pace felt rushed and I'd rather seen a scene dropped or shortened than feel like they're rushing through the numbers. It was the only performance I've been to in Toronto where there was no standing ovation given.
Ouch! Carrie, thanks for your comments. I'm sorry your experience was so awful at the show. Have to admit now, though, I'm happier than ever that I didn't give Harvey a chance when I heard he was replacing Topol the production. I was pretty quick to spend my $633 ticket refund on Christmas gifts! Your honest perspective may help keep other ticket holders from hestitating before demanding a refund! Hope you experience a better performance in Toronto next time!
Yes thanks for your review. Glad I got my refund as well
Made the right decision looks like.
Here's my story. I had been awaiting this play for a year. I purchased 4 tickets as christmas gifts for my family and went to see it on January 2nd. (note that I have not checked any advertising about this performance since somewhere in late September when I checked a few reviews about the performances in US). My whole family was shocked when Mr. Harvey aka Topol came out on stage and opened his mouth. The next 3 hours were the worst I have ever experienced in a theater. The moment I came home I called MasterCard to ask for the procedure of getting a refund. They advised me to first contact the merchant. I have. I got replies back from Laura Gladwell of TicketKing. Like you guys, she offered me tickets to Sound of Music which I have already seen. I replied that fortunately I had seen the play which was just amazing and that I sitll insist on getting my money back. She declined. The argument is that I had seen the play.
I don't get it. Let's say I order a desktop computer from Dell and Dell sends me a Laptop. I'll call in and they will tell me "Sorry, we've run out of desktops but you got a Laptop and it is a computer afterall." Is that right?
Mirvish, TicketKing, Laura Gladwell, that is not right. That is not how customers should be treated. I have spent a few thousand dollars on Mirvish theater productions over the last 10 years. I have seen good plays and bad plays. I never complained because that's subjective. But advertising Topol and delivering Harvey is not subjective.
Adam, it's really hard to believe how poorly Mirvish has been handling all these customer complaints! I am a subscriber to the the Mirvish e-newsletter and we were informed by email before the performance that we could make alternate arrangements if we wished prior to our theatre dates (and only after several of us complained upon learning via other online sites that Topol wasn't to appear). But I'm not sure how you would have known about the Topol switch unless you got that email.
Customers should not have to be so vigilant to ensure that the "goods" they ordered will be delivered. You're right, that's not how loyal customers should be treated. I hope Mirvish gets the message soon! I find it amazing that given the feedback about Harvey's performance, Mirvish recently announced he was coming back in the summer for a repeat performance "due to popular demand"! Bizarre.
I'd imagine one other recourse for a refund might be involving the Ontario Ombudsman … you likely would have a bunch of peeved theatre supporters out there if you decide to go that route!